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and basically said that their real oath is to america and not to a washington loppiest named grover norquist. >> it's actually true. some republicans have signaled a willingness to buck grover norquist and his anti-tax pledge and raise some new revenue. "the wall street journal" weighed in with a reasonable argument. president obama's re-election means the taxes for upper income earners are going up one way or another. speaker john boehner deserves some leeway to try to mitigate the damage by negotiating a larger tax reform. leeway to negotiate sounds pretty sane to me. for some, of course, that's a great big lump of coal wrapped up as an early christmas present. >> revenue that happens to be the democratic code word for tax increases. that is simply not an acceptable position for any true conservative. republicans were not elected to rubber stamp obama's agenda. >> seems some news personalities may be taking a tax increase on the highest earners somewhat personally. anyway, republicans didn't win the white house or the senate. i wonder what other conservatives have to say about that. >> the
. to be grover norquist. >> right now, we are watching both sides start to make their move. >> holiday cheer and fiscal cliff fears. >> of course, we're talking about the -- >> fiscal cliff. >> it does cause uncertainty. >> there's a great uncertainty. >> there's always uncertainty. life is uncertain. >> i think it's more of a slope. republicans possibly maybe -- >> growing number of republicans. >> looking to make a deal. >> and they would like one pretty quick. >> some top republicans suggest they could shock horror. >> the mythical grover norquist. >> break with their sacred pledge. >> to grover norquist. ♪ another one bites the dust >> nobody's turning on me. >> i'm not obligated on the pledge. >> nobody's turning on me. >> it is not about that pledge. >> nobody's turning on me. >> it really is about trying to solve problems. >> i'm sorry, that's just silly. >> grover norquist is not jesus. >> he can't burn down your house. >> we would highlight whose kept their commitment. >> this guy's a political lone shark. >> nobody's turning on me. >> i will violate the pledge. >> nobody's turnin
norquist. >> you speak of grover norquist. >> he's an entertaining warrior. >> pledge mentality is really on the run right now. >> speaker boehner clearly wants a deal. >> he can't have one arm tied behind his back. >> the top 1%, only 42% of the wealth. >> 48.5 million people lived below the poverty level. >> we should ask the wealthy to start paying their fair share. >> the american sense of fairness, no one should pay more than 25%. >> today's republican party has imploded. >> they are in denial. >> they are looking for someone to blame. >> grover is no longer speaking for the party. >> they may not be willing to just die on this hill anymore. >>> good evening. i'm ezra cline in for lawrence o'donnell. the craziest thing is happening in washington right now. you've probably heard of the fiscal cliff or as lawrence likes to call it, the fiscal curve or as my friend calls t the austerity bomb. whatever you would like to call it, it does not look like it's going to happen. it doesn't just look like we're going to avoid a crisis. at this moment today, and this can change, it looks like we'
. >> that's just silly. >> grover norquist, he wanted ground government in the bathtub. i hope he slips in there with it. >> medicaid, social security. >> this is not part of the conversation. we're not going to raid social security. just another fight in washington. >> there's going to be blood and hair and eyeballs all over the floor. >> i'm more positive than most. >> if not, we go off the supposed cliff. >> the fiscal cliff or slope. the bump of various height. >>> thelma and louise might need to make room in the car for the president of the united states. at the white house today, senior obama administration officials met with liberal leaders and union officials. "the washington post" reports that one told him after the meeting, quote, would the white house go off the cliff if it's between that and compromising their core principles? i was left with the impression that they would. illinois democratic senator dick durbin spoke today at the liberal center for american progress where he said this about the possibility of going off the cliff which fears of this show know is is really m
on to grover norquist and some of the colleagues taking a different tact on the pledge. what do you think of this? >> i admire grover norquist. he has a role to play in the search air i don't of the republican party. i have always been against ethanol subsidies, sugar subsidies, all of those things that i thought were wasteful and unnecessariful and the result of special interests. i am still opposed to rate increases. all of my career i have again to the floor and fault against the unwarranted subsidies that were directly a result lobbying rather than the national good. >>neil: you disagree when he says getting rid of those breaks or allowances, without corresponding spending cuts, that breaks the pledge? >>guest: no i don't if it breaks the pledge or not but i am opposed to the tax rate increase because i think it hurts the economy and i think most economists that i respect believe that but throughout my career i v gone to the floor time after time on the appropriations bills and the farm bills that have the important earmarks, the terrible and egregious subsidies which i have opposed a
stream. we are joined by grover norquist , president of americans for tax reform. i have to ask you. how does it feel to be a bully of lawmakers? i like this part especially, anti-tax sell at. the logical extremists. to find yourself is really being pointed that as the problem, not part of the solution here suddenly. how do you feel that? >> well, look. harry reid had a plan. he and obama and nancy pelosi were going to spend a great deal of money, and then they were going to turn to the republicans and say, okay. why don't you be responsible and raise taxes, put your finger prints on a tax increase to pay for our bigger government. republicans said no. harry reid has had a hissy fit for four years now, i'm happy the republicans would not raise taxes to pay for is bigger government. the problem is the american people don't want their taxes raised. lou: what i asked was how you feel? >> i am pleased as punch. harry reid, at having a hissy fit at me, he's really mad at the american people for not wanting to raise taxes. he personalizes it with me. lou: what about those folks like senator jo
's interesting is with grover norquist and the anti-tax pledge, over 90% of republicans have signed that pledge, but so many are now speaking out about it. this morning in a breakfast with politico, mike allen was talking to grover norquist about this and grover norquist responded saying certain republicans are having impure thoughts about the fact that they would go ahead and break that pledge. take a listen to part of that breakfast meeting. >> i sounds like republicans are less afraid of you now. are you like frosty? are you melting, losing your power before our very eyes? >> no. two things are both fictions. one is the scenario that republicans were afraid of americans for tax reform and me personally and they took the pledge because i told them to. that's colbert territory, that's harry reid, that's what they say. that's nonsense. people take the pledge. the reason why most republicans and a handful of democrats take the pledge is that they don't intend to raise taxes. >> wouldn't it be good if our leaders were not signing pledges like this and actually voted with what their stilts wanted?
trackses they increased spending. neil: americans for tax reform president grover norquist had almost like a widt wizard of oze grip on republicans for years. you can't even entertain hiking taxes would -- without guaranteeing further cuts down the road, republicans by and large have stuck to that but now post this election, we've seen a half dozen prominent republican senator saying that this no tax hike pledge may not be useful any more, you see just some who share that view. grover is no longer oz. just a cranky guy behind a curtain, pulling the crank, a wizard of oz reference, i thought it was the good, many here did not. mark meckler said they will make a mistake with that julie disagrees, julie, what do you see at risk here? >> you know pledges are what you make when but to church you pledge yourruth to husband or wife, not something you make in politics, you do not know what is going to happen down the road, people like peter king who made a pledge 25 years ago. times have changed. have you two wars that are not funded. have you a medicare prescription drug plan that a lot of these
attacks it or the recession it might trigger but grover norquist, a frequent guest year. the nti-tax pledge many republicans signed. with more on this republican senator mike lee of uth. always good to see you. thank you for coming on. a growing number of republican senators who are dissing themselves from grover. take aook at this. the list goes on and on. will you back away from grov and his pledge? >> the plege i made regarding taxes to that have to do with any one individual. what i'd made for my constituents, the voters of utah who elected me in part because i was willing to acknowledge of washington has a spending problem, far more than a revenue problem. voters in utah recognize the fact that when you raise taxes which economic growth. that is what we need t least right now. we need new growth, new jobs, and that is why i'm shying away from a tax increase. gerri: it's interesting because democrats keep pushing grover into the spotlight making him a bogyman. >> an obstacle standing beyond, plan -- congress and compromise. for years norquist has believe lawmakers willing to
are telling grover norquist to take a hike with the "we won't raise taxes" pledge. >>reporter: the fine tuning is they are saying we are okay with close loopholes but they don't want to raise tax rates. the republicans are saying the survey done by a group calls the winston group, a republican research firm, says 65 percent of americans back tax reform and spending cuts over the raising of taxes. here is the senate republican leader on what the g.o.p. is offering. >> without compromising our principles we put skin in the game and recognition to the fact while democrats don't run this town, neither do we. we have been responsible even as we remain firm on this point. no tax increases now for promised spending cuts that you will not materialize later. the american people have seen that game before. they won't be fooled again. >> house republicans are planning to bring in on wednesday a number of c.e.o.'s of caterpillar, goldman sachs and all state and other key players on fiscal includes including erskine bowles co-author of the simpson-bowles and the republicans want the business community to h
's preference to grover norquist and doesn't want any taxes of any kind and republicans are very clear, they say raise tax revenue and would have to come through limits on deductions, not higher tax rates. however, on the other side of the aisle there's no movement from the democrats, carl levin says, yeah, raise tax rates on the rich. >> they have to go up either real tax rates or effective tax rates, there's ways of at that doing. secondly though we've got to close significant loopholes. >> movement on the republican side, not from the democrats. there are no meetings scheduled for talks for the congressional leaders, and they'll hit the road and sell tax on over a quarter million dollars. maybe he should bring warren buffett along, buffett says he's in favor of raising the tax rate on people making more than $500,000 a year. congress may have less time to figure this all out than we thought. the new rules go into effect january 1st, but we believe that christmas eve may be the real deadline because of course, of the holiday. that's the deadline. very close. high unemployment, slow economic gr
, some top republicans suggest they could, shock, horror, break with their sacred pledge to grover norquist. >> i'm not obligated on the pledge i made tennesseans aware is just elected that the only thing i'm honoring is the oath that i take when i serve when i'm sworn in this january. >> there's a lot that has been said about this pledge, and i will tell you when i go to the constituents that have elected -- re-elected me, it is not about that pledge. it really is about trying to solve problems. >> when you're $16 trillion in debt, the only pledge we should be making to each other is to avoid becoming greece, but i will violate the pledge, long story short, for the good of the country only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> sounds great, doesn't it? only one problem, this apparent kiss-off to the anti-tax guru appears to be pure lip service. as mr. norquist himself expressed this morning in somewhat colorful language. >> no pledge taker has voted for a tax increase. we've had some people discussing impure thoughts on national television. we would certainly highlight who h
americans a big sticking point because the taxpayer protection pledge promoted by grover norquist. he is lobbyist and conservative activists convinced all republican lawmakers to oppose all tax hikes. now 10 gop lawmakers would be willing to break that pledge. senator sachs by chambliss was the first to announce followed by other prominent republicans including senator lindsey graham and john mccain. then the chairman of house homeland security committee, peter king. >> the only pledge we should make is avoid becoming greece. republicans should put revenue on the table. >> i think everything should be on the table. i myself am opposed to tax increases. the fact the speaker and majority leader and president will be in another room trying to find the best package. i will not prejudge it. jon: joining us now for a fair and balanced debate the doug thorn former communication is chairman for the democratic national committee and congressman chris van hollen. ron bonjean for. former aide to house speaker dennis hastert. has grover norquist lost his will? >> speaker boehner said revenues wou
that no tax increase pledge that many of them signed, a pledge created by lobbyist grover norquist. house majority leader eric cantor, senator lindsey graham of south carolina and senator saxby chambliss of georgia all said there could be an increase in tax revenue if democrats agreed to controlling the cost of medicare and medicaid. >> there's a right way to do this and there's a wrong way to do it. but at the end of the day, nancy what's got to happen is whoever's right or wrong here we've got to get the economy going again. >> reporter: chambliss and virginia democrat mark warner head up the senate's gang of eight-- four democrats and four remembers who have worked for two and a half years to find a bipartisan approach to debt reduction. do you think your democratic colleagues are going to be willing to entertain discussion of social security reform, medicare reform as part of this deal? >> listen, i think anyone that looks at our entitlements, medicare, social security, other programs, they're great programs. but the math just doesn't work anymore. not because the programs are bad but
about breaking grover norquist's anti-tax pledge. you call him a genial man who has dangerously loopy ideas. >> let them say that about me. >> well, you know, he kind of -- that's kind of what i think about grover. and he says nobody is caving on the pledge, but, you know, spidery cracks are appealing in the ceiling. look, i think that would be a good thing. what would be really good. you were just talking to senator durbin. what would be really good is if this sort of bland smoke, frankly, senator durbin's a friend of mine. but this bland smoke we're hearing on entitlements from democrats and taxes from republicans, if -- behind closed doors they're able to talk more specifically. i think this is what represents, actually, some kind of progress and i'm starting to feel a bit more hopeful than i was a few weeks ago that maybe we're going to start to get somewhere. >> yeah. maybe. i don't know. >> do we still have senator durbin with us? >> yes, i'm still here. >> i don't think he's run away. >> senator durbin, can you talk about putting medicaid to the side, social security to the sid
about an upcoming deal. several house and senate republicans are rejecting an antitax pledge of grover norquist. but rejecting the pledge comes with strings attached. >> i will violate the pledge, long story short, for the the good of the country, only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> get out the gun and hold it to our head. democrat and republican lawmakers are giving the impression that a deal can be reached. as long as there are cuts to things that are near and dear to a lot of americans. medicare and medicaid. david plouffe's public comments give credence to that idea. senator bernie sanders has spoken on this program about the need to protect programs for the middle class. senator sanders released this statement to "the ed show" tonight. "what david plouffe has stated concerns me deeply. in the election and in poll after poll after poll at a time when the middle class is disappearing and the numb of people living in poverty is at an all-time high. the american people demanded that there be no benefit cuts to medicare, medicaid and social security for those who are doing
to taxe some newly elected house republicans, guess what, refusing says signing grover norquist note tax pledge. michaelreagan on help breaking that plege. are they going to cave? >> well, i hope they don't. this is not about republicans trying to figure out, if we cave, the electorate will love us. no, they won't. if the cave, the democrats will laugh all the way to the bank. the election coming upon a couple of years. you might remember, my father made this deal with the democrats back in 1980. $3 in spending cuts for every dollar in new taxes. guess what? taxes and a place. my father has been dead since 2004. he is stll waiing for the tax cuts to comment. they will neverome in unless you get them first, not last the. tom: history repeats itself. and i suspect -- >> all the time. the democrats selling the three for one package for ever. you never seemed to get the $3 in spending cuts, but you always get the tax increase. you know, the mayor was right. this is about the factthat there is too much spending and washington who, in fact imitates that money to spend it. the california. propo
the reform entitlements, to avoid a debt crisis. gerri: something else, criticizing grover norquist for his note tax pledge. this would point to a fracturing of the republican party in terms of its support for not raising taxes. what do you make of this? does this come as news to you, will this change the face of the republican party? >> points to the fact there's so much pressure here on republicans. the media putting pressure on republicans, completely misplaced. we have a spending problem. no one is focusing on cutting spending. that will continue until john boehner or somebody else says we're not talking about tax increases so we start talking about cutting spending. gerri: obamacare is an expensive entitlement that is brand new and john boehner, speaker of the house, wrote this, we can't afford it. we can't afford to leave it intact. the law has to stay on the table as both parties discuss ways to solve the nation's massive debt challenge. it has been put on the table is yet another king, something republicans want on the table. we need to do something about obamacare if we are going t
the no taxes pledge created by the president of americans for tax reform, grover norqui norquist, the two most terrifying words a republican can hear, other than buenos diaz. but now some republicans are abandoning the anti-tax pledge as fast as they abandoned -- what's his name? don't help me. don't help me. rip flambe -- no, that's my personal trainer. >> all right. good morning. it's wednesday, november 28th. look at this live look at rockefeller plaza. it is just lit up. gorgeous. >> you know what happens tonight? >> oh, yes, the big tree lighting. >> big commerce -- >> exciting for all the children. >> all right. welcome to "morning joe." >> mike, do you think that's going to whip people into a buying frenzy -- >> it's comcastic. >> a five-year running joke. >> i guess he wasn't paying attention. >> yes. >> national affairs editor for "new york" magazine. john heilemann and andrea mitchell. >> a lot of people say, i'm in trouble. and they've got these little arm bands now, wwjd. what would joe do? so what do i say? you've seen those, wwjd. >> everywhere. >> i say make a mistake, just step
come up frequently in the last week is grover norquist. eugene robinson writing perhaps an optimistic op-ed yesterday that says maybe the fever is breaking, maybe the delirrium is lifting. maybe republicans are asking themselves what were we thinking when we put an ya surds l unrealistic pledge to a lobbyist in washington. this comes on the heels of a few saying they might be open to tax. >> [ inaudible ] there's also, you know, the republican study committee and all of the kind of ideological mechanisms that have been pushing the republican party to the right. >> and the whole tea party. >> the tea party. >> and wealthy people. >> so that's the key here. for me what's interesting about this, this is a probe into the ceo's soul. if you look at cnbc, the ceos are going like the apocalypse. >> december 21st. >> and what's interesting here is, is the business community, the chamber of commerce, which has real leverage over the republicans, going to back up that emotion and push them to cut a deal even if at the risk of giving something on high marginal tax rates or will they not? will th
. >> brian: norquist is the bad guy. you should walk away from grover norquest. he said you have enough money on capitol hill and stop asking us . he's been a watch dog on our money so whether you are democrat or republican you should salute him. he warned you in the past that people who walked away from the no new taxes paid a price. >> remember the gang of 6. three of the people that you mentioned spent eight months in the room with democrats, pretending to negotiate tax increases for entitlement reform . after a while coburn had to admit they were offered nothing but tax increases. the president's budget is tax increases and president's negotiation is nothing but tax increases. >> gretchen: republicans need to hire good pr firms to get the message out. you will not go for tax increases unless the democrats go for cuts. >> brian: the president may not have control of his caucus. secret police files using as confetti in the macy's thanksgiving pallad. we will show share how it happened. >> steve: want to see where our economy is going. look back to 1937 and franklin roosevelt and stewart var
, the tea party is responsible for gridlock. we will have to make some changes. grover norquist and others will feel the impact of that analysis. connell: we will see how that plays out. thank you to both of you, as always, for coming on. >> thank you. dagen: billionaire hedge fund manager steve: on the ropes. what does charlie gasparino know about it? connell: and then we have holdups in holiday travel. there is jeff flock at the o'hare airport in chicago. jeff: a foggy day in chicago town. what is the impact? i will show you and tell you what we come back. standby. it is not a pretty bored. ♪ [ male announcer ] with over 50 delicious choices of green giant vegetables it's easy to eat like a giant... ♪ and feel like a green giant. ♪ ho ho ho ♪ green giant dagen: breaking news to bring you that a mideast cease-fire could be imminent. two well respected sources telling fox news that they expect israel to announce a cease-fire later tonight or tomorrow local time. they expect hamas to declare an independent cease-fire as they did in january 2009. it comes as hillary clinton shuttles
americans signed onto the grover norquist pledge never to quote for a tax hike, closing tax loopholes. speaker boehner says i'm willing to break it and do the latter on deductions and exemptions and saxby chambliss the senator said it's time to ditch grover and his pledge, is it? >> all bets are off. i mean, listen, we're in a mess and all bets are off and we shouldn't be held to political organizations that are influencing our elections in terms of getting this mess taken care of, but you know, listen, i have a novel idea for the president. why doesn't he public size an itemized list of his spending cuts he's prepared to put on the table before asking american people to pay taxes. i mean, it's simple. when you have a credit card debt and you don't ask other people to pay for it or you don't borrow money to pay the interest on it, you make hard choices on your discretionary spending from a weekly basis or a monthly basis, this is just a business that's been run poorly and it's-- >> would you agree the president doesn't have a terribly good track record when it comes for proposals for
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